June 23, 2025

Grappling with Purpose: How Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Shapes Character with Black Belts Mike Medina and Juno Lucero

Grappling with Purpose: How Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Shapes Character with Black Belts Mike Medina and Juno Lucero

Shoot me a message! We explore the transformative journey of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu with black belt Mike Medina and competitor Juno Lucero, delving into how this martial art shapes character, builds mental resilience, and provides purpose beyond the mats. • Juno shares his background growing up in New Mexico and how Mike introduced him to jiu-jitsu at a young age • Both guests recount street fight stories and how martial arts training prepared them for real-world confrontations • Juno explains ...

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Season 3

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We explore the transformative journey of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu with black belt Mike Medina and competitor Juno Lucero, delving into how this martial art shapes character, builds mental resilience, and provides purpose beyond the mats.

• Juno shares his background growing up in New Mexico and how Mike introduced him to jiu-jitsu at a young age
• Both guests recount street fight stories and how martial arts training prepared them for real-world confrontations
• Juno explains how jiu-jitsu gives him a calm demeanor in everyday situations by providing a positive outlet for energy
• Discussion on how belt rank differs from actual maturity on the mats and the importance of humility in training
• Mike shares experiences with overaggressive visitors to his gym and how he protects his students
• The importance of wrestling as a foundation for both competition and self-defense applications
• Debate on the merits of gi versus no-gi training with perspectives on the technical depth of each
• Commentary on social media influencers in jiu-jitsu and the importance of following credible teachers
• Examination of questionable self-defense techniques circulating online and why they often wouldn't work in reality
• Both guests share their competition mindset and how they approach upcoming tournaments

Join us at American Nationals in Las Vegas, June 24-26, where Mike, Juno, Nate and brothers AJ and Jesse will be competing as a team.


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00:00 - Introducing the Warriors of Jiu-Jitsu

01:40 - Juno's Journey and Background

06:11 - Street Fights and Self-Defense Stories

10:20 - Jiu-Jitsu's Impact Beyond the Mats

16:53 - Personality and Belt Ranking Maturity

25:12 - Wrestling as a Foundation

29:59 - Gi vs No-Gi Debate

34:07 - Video Commentary on Martial Arts Culture

48:40 - Competition Mindset and Character Building

58:35 - Final Thoughts and Future Plans

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Welcome to the Morning of discipline, struggle and brotherhood, with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

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Joining me in the studio are two true warriors.

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I've got Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt himself, mike Medina, right here.

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Say what's up?

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Hello, hello, Thanks for having me back.

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Appreciate it, and his beautiful, handsome cousin, juno Lucero.

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What's up, guys?

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As always, it's great to have you guys on the show.

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Man, today we're getting into everything from Juno's journey into Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, how it helped shape his life, to some of the most trending topics in the Jiu-Jitsu world right now.

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Whether you're a white belt, black belt or somewhere in between, or you're just searching for your purpose, today's episode is definitely going to be for you.

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So, juno, I just want to ask you man, let's get started from the beginning.

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Where did you grow up?

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What kind of environment did you grow up in?

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I grew up in albuquerque, rio rancho.

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Rio rancho, albuquerque, new mexico, grew up there until I was about 14.

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I went to sacramento with mike, then from there I moved back to rio rancho for a little bit, for like three months, then out to, went to San Diego, back to LA.

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Now I'm back in Rio Rancho, new Mexico.

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So tell me, how did you first get into Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu man?

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Was it something that Mike kind of brought you in on, or was it something you got in on your own?

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That was Mike.

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He got me and my brother AJ into it and then from there just ran with it.

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So, mike, what was it like convincing your family to jump into it?

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So, mike, what was it like convincing your family to jump into it?

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It was fairly easy.

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The thing is they were already doing a lot of stuff.

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They were doing BMX and a lot of new cool things, and I was at the time teaching jiu-jitsu and doing Muay Thai and I said, hey, you guys got to try this out.

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And it started like every UFC fight or something, I would show them a technique.

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And it just grew, it just kept growing.

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And or something, I would show him a technique.

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And it just grew, it just kept growing.

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Juno was your cousin?

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I guess not your cousin nephew uncle nephew.

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You're a much older, more wiser uncle here.

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Has he been someone that you've always looked up to?

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Yeah, for sure.

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He's always telling me fight stories, like street fights, that he's been in All these things.

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Me and my brother always looked after him, especially in jujitsu.

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He's beaten my ass for years now.

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I'm finally catching up, so that's nice yeah, that sucks oh really, mike, you're you're really humble man.

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You don't talk about um a whole lot of anything and you pretend that you don't know how to do anything when it comes to fighting, but talk to me about the street fights he's talking about.

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Jeez.

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Well, you know, albuquerque is a tough place to kind of grow up, you know.

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So you kind of either have to handle you they're a victim, right or you're going to be in there like just defending yourself.

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So yeah, I just kind of ran with a pretty good group.

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I had, like I said, like like I said last time, I had boxed and I had, you know, just just really didn't take anything from anybody.

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You know, I wasn't one to really take a lot of shit.

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So give me, give me one specific time that you sticks out.

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Listen, I know you have one, he's like.

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I can tell by the look on your face that you have one.

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Yeah, I got a few fight story.

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I got a good one.

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So, um, it was my friend AJ's girlfriend's birthday, so we had a little house party and it was me, my friend Mitch, my friend Drew, a couple good buddies of mine had a great night.

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It was a big party.

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Everyone was vibing, having a good time, and the night started winding down.

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And keep in mind when I tell you this, me and all my friends were wearing emo clothes.

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We had tight jeans on, did not look like we knew how to protect ourselves for sure.

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Night went down.

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My buddy knew he was with me and my buddy Mitch who can you know, who are kind of known around for protecting ourselves, if you will he was in the.

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My buddy Mitch was in the back telling a story to a group of girls about how a street fight that he was in and at the same time I look over and my buddy drew is getting into an altercation with these guys, and there was about four of them.

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So I run back, open the door, I get my buddy Mitch, we run out and it was.

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It was, it was like a movie.

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My buddy looked at me and he saw my boy Mitch and he just like punched the first dude and then a pandemonium broke out at that point.

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But my end, I end up suplexing a guy onto a table and like it was just really bad.

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It was really bad.

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Yeah, my buddies did work, but you know it was not easy that night which were you ever worried about?

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like, especially in albuquerque, new mexico, those rural areas, man like weapons are a thing like, were you ever worried about that coming out?

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yeah, you, it's always in the back of my mind, but at that moment now, I was just.

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You know who's this like in the zone.

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Yeah, I was just.

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I was just in the moment so, yeah, what about?

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what about you, juno?

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I mean, have you been in the any altercations where you're like having to deal with people and fighting, or have you been kind of a cleaner path?

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definitely inner path, mike, for sure.

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Yeah, like I've done jiu-jitsu since I was like eight, did wrestling since I was like five or six.

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So everyone I went to school with always knew I did some type of martial art, so no one really wanted to mess with me.

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So I mean I went like bodies in the bathroom for my homes and shit like that, but nothing as brutal as Mike, that's for sure.

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So was there a turning point in your?

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life, maybe a challenge or a moment of clarity that made you commit fully to the path of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, because you're very competitive.

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Honestly, just the thought of having to work a job and have to go to work every day.

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Because Jiu-Jitsu is not a job to me, it's something I love.

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So every time I do it I'm not working at all.

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Anytime I teach a class, it's not I'm not working, is what I love.

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So that's kind of why I chose it.

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Yeah, that's actually really.

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That's actually really huge man.

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People ask me sometimes like whether I like my job, and I'm just kind of like, what kind of question is that?

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Who likes who likes their job?

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I don't know, I don't know anybody that really likes their job.

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I mean, very few people do.

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So.

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You are blessed with that and I want to ask you, how is you jitsu impacted your life outside the gym, mentally, emotionally and spiritually?

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I just feel like I'm super calm.

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So every time I go train I get all my energy out.

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So anytime I'm like dealing with someone at the store who's like being annoying, I'm just kind of like it is what it is.

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You know, I get cut off in traffic.

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I'm like just where it is pretty calm, Pretty calm guy because of jiu-jitsu I think.

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Yeah, and Mike, I want to ask you, man Early on I didn't ask you this last time, I think last time we asked a question about if you could bring anyone back, who would you train with or who would you roll against, or something like that.

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It was a question like that.

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But talk to me about your early training days.

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Who are some of the key mentors, or?

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people that helped sharpen your tools.

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When it comes to the mats, wow, I got pretty fortunate.

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There was a lot of guys, a lot of wrestlers, I could say when I first started influenced my grappling for sure.

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So there was a guy named Lenny Lovato.

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He was state champion, his cousin, this guy from Montana named Derek Asher.

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He really taught me that if I learned jujitsu I'd be a lot more dangerous than just primarily wrestling, if that makes sense.

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So I would watch this guy come in and he was doing jujitsu, submitting these guys that were super high-level wrestlers and I was like man, that's impressive.

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So I'd say him and Ray, yee, he runs.

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I think it was Albuquerque kickboxing at the time.

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He gave me the chance to teach and really opened my eyes to martial arts.

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So all them played a huge fact in where I'm at today for sure.

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Yeah, what about?

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you Gino.

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Early on my uncle, obviously my first coach, barata.

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He was at Gracie Baja back then.

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Now he has his own gym Smart Jits.

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After that, kahlo, kahlo Lopez he was my probably.

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He gave me my yellow belt all the way up to my green belt.

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But the biggest one is probably Cabrinha, out here in LA.

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I'd say he probably shaped my game the most for sure.

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And then Keenan I was at Keenan's for a while, but most for sure.

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And then, uh, keenan, I was at keenan's for a while, but uh, I'd say andre spunovsky, you probably showed me a lot of stuff.

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He gave me a lot of insight on how to like compete and stuff like that.

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So right, so when are you planning on competing next?

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I know we just came back from long beach, the world's long beach.

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Uh, what, what's your next?

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Uh, what's your next plan over the horizon?

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I think we're all going to be doing, uh, american nationals me, mike, nate, my brothers aj and jesse, so that should be fun, little little crew going out there to american nationals in las vegas, nice.

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When's that happening?

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june 24th to the 26th, or 26 to the 28th, or something like that so are you guys planning on cutting any weight, or are you just gonna go in and where you're at I'm gonna cut some weight.

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I got a little overweight recently so I gotta, I gotta shed some pounds, but you know I I could do it so where you at right now oh geez, right now I'm like 185.

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What a fat ass, I know no, dude 185.

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I wish I was 185.

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Still, what Juno.

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I think I might cut to 141.

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I'm sitting right at 150 right now, so a nine-pound cut it's not too bad.

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We'll see, though.

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I might stay at feather, though that's fair.

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That's fair.

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Have you guys ever plateaued, mentally or physically, where you questioned on whether or not you were going to continue?

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If so, how did you push through that?

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Who wants to take that one you could take?

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that you know yeah, for sure.

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There's a lot of times in training where you just like get beat up.

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Like for a week in a row you say, man, I'm don't feel like I'm getting better, but you just got to keep going.

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Because you don't realize that when you're training with all these guys, you see them every single day, so you don't realize that they're getting better as you're getting better, so that you don't see your growth as much.

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But once you kind of step back and just keep going, you'll, you'll get out of that bunk Absolutely.

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Have you guys ever taken like a long break before and tried to try and tried to come back and had to and had some problems with that?

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I did, I did, I took, I think, two years off, because I hit a plateau.

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I felt that it was like that monumental moment you reach where it's like is this something that I'm doing for the right reasons or am I just, you know, being selfish, right?

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So yeah, yeah, mike, we talked last time, man, and it sounds like you you've had life like just hit you in the face before.

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Yeah, like you know, like failed marriages and and or a failed marriage and just going through those emotions and everything like that, whereas you know, was brought up in jiu-jitsu and and has kind of lived his life through that way.

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But when life hits you, man, jiu-jitsu has always been there for me, um, as far as keeping me in the middle somewhere in the middle there, um, and keeping me mentally exhausted enough to where I'm not doing stupid shit.

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But how do you personally define the difference between, um, a belt rank and a real level of maturity on the mats?

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Who wants that one?

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go ahead jenna, I'm sure you have a lot of students and stuff right and you have like, because I'm gonna tell you right now, like I've especially early on, like in 2008, 2009, 2010, when I first started, there were guys that were high ranking but were completely immature, like guys that would just blow your knees out, you know, blow your shoulder out, usually as a grappling dummy, and there's just no maturity there.

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But what would you?

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yeah, for sure.

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I mean the belt doesn't really say who you are as a person, you know, right, you could be a black belt but be a white belt as a person.

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So I mean, it's just about the person.

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I feel like belts don't really matter, like I could be a white belt and still be as good as I am now, you know.

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But I feel like belts don't really matter, like I could be a white belt and still be as good as I am now, you know.

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But I feel like jujitsu, if you learn it from the right person, they also teach you how to be a man as well.

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And some people don't have that.

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They just kind of go into the room, they just kind of brawl it out and they're not really trying to like get better as a person.

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So I mean you guys have probably had people walk into the gym before and actually like you know, maybe wearing a purple belt or a blue belt or whatever, but then they started destroying everybody, right, and then you have to kind of like hey, like tone it down, and have you guys dealt with that before?

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I have not very often.

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Usually everyone who comes in is very respectful, you know, and nice.

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But we've had, we've had small instances at, you know, someone visiting from out of town and with Nate.

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They were kind of going at it with Nate and, yeah, we kind of had a little situation where I had to tune this guy up for not being respectful.

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What happened?

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What happened Is that the guy you put in a triangle yeah, it wasn't even that, it was like a flying I jumped off the wall and caught him in a choke.

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It was crazy.

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Well, jumped off the wall and caught him in like a choke, it was crazy.

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I well, he came in, he was like already telling me oh, I'm an mma fighter, and blah, blah, blah.

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And I said, hey, that's fine, you know, come on in and I'm very welcoming for people who train with us.

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Know that I, you know, we, I teach my guys when someone comes in we don't go hard, you know, we match their speed, we try to like be there.

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But, um, anyway, he was uh, kind of going hard on everybody and Nate at the time was a white belt, so he was kind of just getting his like the feel for jujitsu and they just kind of started going off and as soon as I saw him throw a punch I was like all right, that's it.

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You know, because people who know me like I'm very caring but at the same time like I'll definitely stand up for what's right.

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Like you know, if you come into the gym and you try to disrespect, you know it can go beyond what just competition jujitsu can be for myself, but at the same time it's, you know, I teach in art and I try to be as professional as possible.

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But there are boundaries that if you cross then there's actions that will be taken, for sure, definitely.

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Now, do you think that you've kind of learned over the years on, like how to read people a little bit better, since you've had instances like that?

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Yeah, for sure, for sure, and usually with them.

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I try to kill people with kindness, especially if they're overaggressive, right?

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Because at the end of the day, no matter how hard they're going, if my jujitsu is good, then I know that there's really not much they can do, no matter how angry they are, how many fights they've had, it's it means nothing, you know.

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So I could, I try to, you know, be nice and calm and cool them down and try to see that, hey, if you just slow down, everything will make sense.

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so, yeah, you know, juno, I don't want to miss this opportunity because you're visiting us from the land of enchantment oh yeah, you know you, you always like freaking, dominate me like when, like whenever you're on the mat and you let me know you're always like freaking, dominate me like when, like whenever on the mat, and you let me know you're from new mexico, like you.

00:14:06.707 --> 00:14:10.964
Like you call it out like nm, like no, I'm just kidding, no, but uh, no, but like.

00:14:10.964 --> 00:14:17.044
So, tell me something about you that most people don't know about, and like what aspect?

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Just say anything.

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So last time we were here, man, we learned that mike got shot when he was 12, running away from some gangbangers.

00:14:24.966 --> 00:14:31.336
And then I think Mike, like receptively, you had gotten some feedback from people that didn't know certain things about you.

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I haven't had a chance to really get to know Juno that much.

00:14:36.750 --> 00:14:38.346
I mean I have, but I haven't.

00:14:38.346 --> 00:14:39.666
You've been gone quite a bit.

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So what about you is something that most people don't know about.

00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:47.885
Fuck that's a hard one.

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I mean I'm a super kind guy.

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Anytime I beat someone in a tournament I always feel super bad.

00:14:53.932 --> 00:14:56.969
I just feel like I don't know how to explain it.

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I just feel bad for the person I just beat because I know how it is to feel that way.

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So I don't think people see that part of me like how I feel inside when I beat someone.

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I'm like oh man, Are you like super celebratory, like after you destroy someone?

00:15:09.229 --> 00:15:11.764
It depends you just kind of just get up quietly.

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Sometimes I just get up quietly.

00:15:12.807 --> 00:15:15.245
It depends on how I win, If I submit the guy I'm getting up.

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And it depends on their moxie.

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Yeah, for sure.

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And if they're doing some dirty stuff during the match, I think I'm going to rub it in their face a little bit once it's over.

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But it's all love.

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You know what if they're a rival.

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Oh, yeah, that always feels good.

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You got rivals, huh, I mean just guys that you've fought before.

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They may beat you.

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You beat them.

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It's been a close match and you guys just kind of meet up again.

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You got to go at it.

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But I mean, I'm just a really nice guy.

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At people see me, they kind of think I'm like, uh, like an aggro kind of guy.

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I'm kind of like I don't really seem like approachable to some people, but I'm actually a really nice guy I think you're a nice guy.

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Yeah, once you get to know me, you see that part of me.

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But like I don't, even first, I don't even have to get to know you.

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Like I just feel like you just seem like a nice guy, like even even if I don't know you.

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Like you're always smiling and shit and like I try.

00:16:01.509 --> 00:16:06.235
Yeah, very, very humble guy too Very humble Do you?

00:16:06.235 --> 00:16:16.806
Do you think that your personality is is kind of um, your former training partners, your former coaches have kind of rubbed off on you like with your personality and stuff, or just is that kind of just how you have always been?

00:16:17.107 --> 00:16:20.589
No, I think I get my personality from my family, like Mike, my, my brothers.

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We're all kind of like the not the same person, but we all kind of speak the same act, the same same characteristic.

00:16:26.773 --> 00:16:27.312
Yeah, for sure.

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So when you're dealing with ego, because you guys are nice guys, but but when you are dealing with ego, how do you?

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What's your approach to dealing with that in yourself and in dealing with others?

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in a brazilian jiu-jitsu setting, I think if someone comes in and they're going really hard sometimes, sometimes you have to just kind of let them know who's the boss, if you will, right, but just strictly using technique right, Showing them that there's nothing you can do that can save you.

00:16:54.264 --> 00:16:58.571
I don't care how, like I said, I don't care how mad you are, how angry you are, there's nothing you can do.

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So you kind of like the goal right, you know you're going to come in, you're going to have an attitude.

00:17:06.114 --> 00:17:12.553
Then you know I could nicely you're in a submission, you know what I'm saying?

00:17:12.733 --> 00:17:24.630
Yeah, yeah, I like to always say that if you are at a high level, you can always bump down to a lower level, but if you're at a low level you can't bump up to a higher level without getting yourself or someone else hurt.

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And so that's and like in the law enforcement side of things and military side of things that's how I've always seen things is you're expected to be better than everyone else and then kind of train down to people enough to where you're bringing them up with you, not just completely destroying them.

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Do you see that you say it's pretty accurate?

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yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely.

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And also notice too, you can judge people by their personality, because I always tell my students, like your personality is an indicator of how your jujitsu is.

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If that makes sense, someone's a nice guy, they're going to be, they're going to be really good at jujitsu and they're going to like, be caring right.

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We're a guy who's, you know, like aggro right there.

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You're going to tell right away if they walk in, they got that like bro style attitude.

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They're going to have like that bro style jujitsu as well, you know.

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So I think that's.

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That's something I try to look out for too.

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If someone has a weird personality or something I already know, like, oh, this guy's gonna try to go hard, or I know I'm not to put him with new students or something, I'll keep it with the higher belts and stuff.

00:18:23.478 --> 00:18:24.282
So what was your?

00:18:24.282 --> 00:18:29.320
What was okay, because I'm gonna lie when I first came to your gym, you were concerned about me.

00:18:29.320 --> 00:18:30.682
I, I knew you were.

00:18:30.682 --> 00:18:31.864
Yeah, I knew you were.

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Were because you were.

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I noticed you watching me because I came in as a Pro Belt unknown, yeah, but I get it.

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I understand why.

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Like I understand why you would be concerned.

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Would you say that that's pretty accurate.

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Like for most, like higher belts that come in for the first time, you're a little bit apprehensive and then you kind of back out from that.

00:18:50.865 --> 00:18:56.634
What I worry about is the safety of my students, you know, right, because a lot of times a lot of these people are, you know, they're not competitors, right?

00:18:56.634 --> 00:19:04.803
You know, my, my, my competitor base is super small.

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So for someone to come in who's trying to learn and someone comes in visiting and they're like, oh, another blue belt, right.

00:19:10.048 --> 00:19:11.729
And then boom, hurt this guy, he's got to go to work.

00:19:11.729 --> 00:19:16.534
He's why I'll always all right, let me see how this guy does and then we'll go through.

00:19:16.534 --> 00:19:18.316
You know, because you got to have some type of empathy.

00:19:18.316 --> 00:19:19.517
You know there's levels to jujitsu.

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There's high level competitors and there's your everyday hobbyists and the balance in between there is just finding, you know, the common ground with technique or using more strength, right?

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And just getting it out, you know.

00:19:40.124 --> 00:19:40.829
So, yeah, no, I completely understand.

00:19:40.829 --> 00:19:43.777
I've been to like so many different gyms in my time unwillingly, because I've moved so much that sometimes, like we're literally walking in strangers, we don't know each other.

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So it's important for you to protect your students.

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They got to go to work tomorrow.

00:19:45.548 --> 00:19:46.429
Yeah, all of them do.

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Nobody's really a professional fighter and it's like you know, that's the most important part, like like you just mentioned, and juno, I don't want to leave you out of this conversation, man, but, uh, I want to get into some trending topics with the Brazilian jiu-jitsu culture and get your young self and your opinions on this, because it seems like today's influencer side of things in Brazilian jiu-jitsu, what's your take on the growing social media influencer side of the sport?

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I think it's cool.

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But I mean, I think you got to be careful on who you follow.

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Obviously there's guys who just kind of put out videos for clicks, for clicks, right right.

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You don't really know if that works or not.

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So obviously go look at what, what they've done, and like competition, and then go from there.

00:20:25.923 --> 00:20:30.902
You know, some people just kind of post videos and they're just like bullshit videos.

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I'm just like bro, what like, what is this?

00:20:32.484 --> 00:20:35.809
Like some of my students are like some people I give like privates to, they'll like show me a video.

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I'm like, bro, like please don't ever do that or ever show me that again, ever.

00:20:40.825 --> 00:20:47.412
Yeah, so it's a nightmare, but if you follow the right people then yeah, it's very I think it's legit for sure.

00:20:47.833 --> 00:20:51.884
Do you know some of the people that that you follow, that that you would recommend, who are authentic?

00:20:52.105 --> 00:20:53.268
there's this guy, john th Thomas.

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I follow a lot of his videos online and he hasn't really even competed.

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He's just very knowledgeable of the game and he's been around a lot of people who are really good, like Espen Matisse and Sebastian Serpo, those kinds of guys, but he's very good.

00:21:04.586 --> 00:21:07.368
I watch a lot of Cabrinha videos, still to this day.

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Andrzej Spunovski I mentioned him earlier but Ke keenan, all those guys, all the guys who've done stuff, I'll watch their videos.

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I know they've proven it.

00:21:22.807 --> 00:21:24.973
They've proven what they know and it actually works, yeah, yeah, mike, what's your take on?

00:21:24.993 --> 00:21:26.096
it with the influencer side of brazilian jiu-jitsu.

00:21:26.096 --> 00:21:26.458
I mean I like it.

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I just think sometimes it puts like a false narrative where people, you know, I see these like influencers and they're getting high up in belts and you're like, dang, they haven't been training that long, you know.

00:21:35.148 --> 00:21:38.878
And it just you wonder, are they training just private lessons?

00:21:38.878 --> 00:21:41.969
But they're getting promoted right, are they putting in the hard work like everybody else?

00:21:41.969 --> 00:21:49.743
I mean, there are levels, but I think at the end of the day, like as long as everyone's learning jujitsu, you know it's it's it's positive for everybody, regardless.

00:21:49.743 --> 00:21:56.414
You know I may not always agree with certain stuff, but you know, take what you want.

00:21:56.414 --> 00:21:58.066
You know, if it works for you, it does.

00:21:58.066 --> 00:21:59.384
If not, just don't use it.

00:21:59.625 --> 00:22:00.207
Yeah, sure.

00:22:01.048 --> 00:22:28.829
Yeah, I want to ask you guys too and it's kind of a personal question that I have for myself because, like for me, like I really think wrestling is an extremely important base when it comes to grappling an extremely important base when it comes to grappling, and like I've always kind of prided myself in being able to hold positions and transition over submissions but is that kind of the wrong take or is that just a way?

00:22:28.829 --> 00:22:32.490
It's not the way, but it's a way to look at it conceptually.

00:22:32.840 --> 00:22:40.551
It's a good way to get a base, like, I think wrestling is very important in jiu-jitsu and all aspects of scrambling, being able to stay on top and all that stuff.

00:22:40.551 --> 00:22:44.375
So and plus you need to secure a position before you get a submission.

00:22:44.375 --> 00:22:53.787
Obviously there's like flying triangles, flying armor, so you can hit, but mainly you're going to try to get to a dominant position, hold it, control it, get inside position, then try to finish the match.

00:22:54.228 --> 00:23:02.153
Right and and I always feel like pressure is my thing too, like, but I also do train, not just for sport, but I train for like real life too.

00:23:02.153 --> 00:23:08.280
So, like it's, it's like I want to make sure that I can hold and I can pressure, and I can take, fight away and replenish energy.

00:23:08.280 --> 00:23:12.605
But is that just a way, or is it the way, or what are your thoughts on that?

00:23:13.144 --> 00:23:18.028
Well if you think about it, right, wrestling is a really good foundation.

00:23:18.028 --> 00:23:22.332
Right, because you're starting on your feet, make sense, yeah.

00:23:22.332 --> 00:23:28.016
So in the instance you want to protect yourself, how many guys are going to pull guard in the street?

00:23:28.016 --> 00:23:29.678
Right, you've got to protect yourself.

00:23:29.678 --> 00:23:36.506
So if you're super good, you've got to know how to wrestle, especially to add it in, because at the end of the day, you never know who you're going to run into.

00:23:36.726 --> 00:23:41.111
You could be a jujitsu black belt of you know a bunch of years and you're super good.

00:23:41.111 --> 00:23:43.532
You run across a guy who wrestled in high school, a state champion.

00:23:43.532 --> 00:23:47.636
You might not be able to take him down yeah, but he could take you down.

00:23:47.636 --> 00:23:50.883
And in the street there's no mats, you can't.

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Oh, you, you pulled my finger or you poked me in the eye.

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All that is now out the window, right, headbutts, everything.

00:23:56.942 --> 00:23:59.186
The danger goes up.

00:23:59.186 --> 00:24:07.651
So to know wrestling jujitsu you're, that makes you just a way more deadly, because you can dictate if it goes to the ground or not, right?

00:24:07.651 --> 00:24:10.606
Yeah, then if it hits the ground, you can, you have the option to attack submissions.

00:24:10.606 --> 00:24:14.223
So wrestling is a very good base to start, I think I guess for me.

00:24:14.263 --> 00:24:18.070
Sometimes people ask me what my opinions and my pieces of advice are.

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Like I don't feel like I'm worthy enough to like give advice and things like that.

00:24:21.566 --> 00:24:29.092
So I'm just like that's a personal question for me, asking you like your thoughts on it because it's the way that I conceptualize things.

00:24:29.092 --> 00:24:36.923
I guess it's like pressure and like positioning and transitioning, and and then the stupid easy submissions are going to present themselves to me.

00:24:37.184 --> 00:24:37.787
Yeah for sure.

00:24:37.787 --> 00:24:38.367
You know what I mean.

00:24:38.367 --> 00:24:40.343
So that's kind of why I wanted to ask that question.

00:24:40.343 --> 00:24:46.545
But the age old question man versus no gi Um yeah, both, I agree.

00:24:46.585 --> 00:24:48.851
Right, I used to love no gi when I started.

00:24:48.851 --> 00:24:55.153
I started no gi and then I started getting choked out all the time in the gi and then it changed my whole perspective.

00:24:55.153 --> 00:24:58.130
Now I don't even I do not like no-gi.

00:24:58.130 --> 00:25:00.287
Well, I do it, yeah, but I'm not a big fan.

00:25:00.287 --> 00:25:00.828
Do I love it?

00:25:00.828 --> 00:25:08.152
It's still jiu-jitsu, no matter what right, it's still, you know, wrestling no-gi, jiu-jitsu, jiu-jitsu, sambo.

00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:18.627
As long as you can, you know, still roll and hunt the submission, I'm all for it regardless.

00:25:18.647 --> 00:25:19.951
So yeah, you know do you think that one has more depth?

00:25:19.951 --> 00:25:20.473
Oh yeah, the gi for sure.

00:25:20.473 --> 00:25:28.980
There's so many more grips, more variables, especially from the guard, like in nogi you want to be on top 100 and in the gi you want to be on bottom.

00:25:28.980 --> 00:25:30.763
Yeah, so it's just different.

00:25:30.763 --> 00:25:35.353
But yeah, the is way deeper, way more stuff to like, deal with for sure.

00:25:35.614 --> 00:25:45.291
Yeah, and I, and, and, and I noticed even with myself, like sometimes when I'm, when I'm sizing people up in real life, I'm looking for a belt, a leather belt around the waist.

00:25:45.291 --> 00:25:49.605
Oh yeah, Because that that simulates a lot right there for for me to grab a hold of.

00:25:50.426 --> 00:25:54.894
A lot of a lot of parents come in and they say, oh well, you only do the uniform.

00:25:54.894 --> 00:25:57.326
I say yeah, and they say, oh no, we don't want to do it.

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Then we want no gi because we want it for self-defense.

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And that boggles my mind, because I'm like, well, every fight I've been into in my entire life I was wearing clothes, right, literally.

00:26:10.815 --> 00:26:17.405
I don't think I've ever fought someone, unless I'm showering and someone comes in and they're naked too and we have to start fighting.

00:26:17.405 --> 00:26:22.029
Then maybe for myself that'll come in handy, but until then, I mean I'm, I've always.

00:26:22.029 --> 00:26:26.603
I mean everything you wear could be, you know, especially if you're used to the grips.

00:26:26.603 --> 00:26:28.407
It's, it's crazy, yeah for sure you know.

00:26:28.528 --> 00:26:36.442
so you know it's crazy for me because I have a real life story about that and, um, I you know you want things to be instinctual.

00:26:36.442 --> 00:26:46.249
When they happen like I should be like two to three beers into something, feeling a little bit of a buzz, but not completely drunk, and be able to be reactionary.

00:26:46.249 --> 00:27:06.951
Yeah, and I actually had that happen to me once where a guy tried to jump in on a friend of mine and he went, she tried to blow past me like I grabbed all of him, simply just judo, threw him to the ground and then, naturally, without even thinking about it, thumb inside of the polo shirt, the reinforced collar of that polo shirt, oh yeah, cross-collar choke.

00:27:06.951 --> 00:27:13.700
And it was like and afterwards, like all my other friends are, they were calling me a trunk monkey because I came out of nowhere.

00:27:13.700 --> 00:27:15.546
And they're like, oh, how'd you do that?

00:27:15.546 --> 00:27:16.509
It was so instinctual.

00:27:16.509 --> 00:27:23.506
And I'm like, yeah, that's training man, that's how you want it to happen, that's how you want it to go down Muscle memory.

00:27:24.148 --> 00:27:42.021
Yeah Well, and at the end of the day, a lot of us train jiu-jitsu because we do tournaments and it's fun to do, but at and think of all the rules that are in the sport of Jiu-Jitsu are all taken away.

00:27:42.021 --> 00:27:43.675
It makes Jiu-Jitsu very deadly.

00:27:43.675 --> 00:27:48.878
Yeah, very deadly, because you can I mean you can end it quick.

00:27:48.878 --> 00:27:49.721
You could end it.

00:27:49.721 --> 00:27:50.903
The options are endless.

00:27:51.109 --> 00:27:52.958
Especially because we train full blast.

00:27:52.958 --> 00:27:57.141
It's hard to train any other martial art full blast without major injuries.

00:27:57.141 --> 00:28:00.539
Like if you train stand up full blast, you're going to go home with headaches.

00:28:00.539 --> 00:28:06.202
Right, we can go into jiu-jitsu train full blast every single day and we'll we'll be fine.

00:28:06.202 --> 00:28:08.029
So we get to train at like a higher intensity.

00:28:08.029 --> 00:28:11.718
So when it actually goes down, we're gonna be sharp.

00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:19.692
And the good thing about jiu-jitsu that a lot of people don't realize is versus, like, let's say, striking or something is there is no puncher's chance in jiu-jitsu.

00:28:19.692 --> 00:28:29.157
Right, right, you can train a little boxing or have muay thai, but if, let's say, the guy you're fighting is a decent street fighter and he's got some hands and you, you're gonna get punched in a fight, right.

00:28:29.157 --> 00:28:38.250
But if you never train jujitsu and you fight someone who knows jujitsu, you ain't gonna get lucky and be like oh I, I hit a sweep, or there's no way.

00:28:38.250 --> 00:28:39.492
No, there's no way.

00:28:39.492 --> 00:28:40.955
So far off the charts.

00:28:42.660 --> 00:28:44.844
I mean you know, and I definitely agree with that, you're right.

00:28:44.844 --> 00:28:46.759
I mean you could take a swing and get a lucky hit.

00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:52.337
But I mean it's hard to do that in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu if you can't even put yourself in position to win.

00:28:52.519 --> 00:29:01.320
You can't bridge, you can't hip escape, you don't know how to deal with grips, jiu-jitsu, especially with the uniform, right that you're.

00:29:01.320 --> 00:29:06.636
You're light years ahead of a normal white belt, who's not even a white belt yet, right?

00:29:06.636 --> 00:29:09.271
They're not even taking that step to be a white belt, right?

00:29:09.291 --> 00:29:20.150
so yeah I want to ask you guys man, there's been some controversy about uh allowing heel hooks and leg locks with lower belts in their divisions for some of these tournaments.

00:29:20.150 --> 00:29:21.813
What's your guys' stance on that?

00:29:21.833 --> 00:29:24.116
I'll let you take it.

00:29:25.219 --> 00:29:25.819
I don't really know.

00:29:25.819 --> 00:29:28.444
I mean, I think it's hard.

00:29:28.444 --> 00:29:32.930
I definitely don't think whites or blue belts should be doing it, but in purple belt you're starting to get elite level.

00:29:32.930 --> 00:29:35.057
I think purple belts could do it.

00:29:35.057 --> 00:29:39.898
But it just depends on what gym you're at, because our gym we don't really teach that much in class.

00:29:39.898 --> 00:29:41.721
We don't really do much no-gi at Mike's gym.

00:29:41.721 --> 00:29:47.494
So it's like if our guys go out there to go compete and all these other guys are doing that, then our guys are going to be behind.

00:29:47.494 --> 00:29:50.538
But I mean, they just got to be universal.

00:29:50.538 --> 00:29:56.173
You got to know what tournaments we're going to do, got to train to that rule set Exactly.

00:29:56.472 --> 00:29:56.713
Yeah.

00:29:56.713 --> 00:29:57.734
What are your thoughts on that, Mike?

00:29:59.196 --> 00:30:10.684
I mean, I think it's good, it keeps everyone safe, but I think you should still teach your students so, if they ever because, like I said, not everything is always going to be in the street, I mean in the, in the arena, right around the mats.

00:30:10.684 --> 00:30:15.540
So you got to almost prepare your students for everything in a way.

00:30:15.540 --> 00:30:20.213
But no, okay, well, this is what you can and can't do, right, but if you have to, you can use this, right.

00:30:20.213 --> 00:30:23.837
So those are things I think you should go over with them.

00:30:23.837 --> 00:30:28.241
But safety is always an issue too, because sometimes people don't know how hard to go.

00:30:28.241 --> 00:30:32.906
But that's why you have to teach them and say, hey, you can't do this, but this is how you do it.

00:30:36.661 --> 00:30:53.458
Or you escape, especially because if you start teaching white belts how to heel hook and they're going to open mat somewhere else and this other white boy doesn't know how to heel hook and he obliterates his knee now that's a nightmare yeah, and then, like I said, a lot of these people are hobbyists, so they're not trying to, you know, and then they have to go to work and it's just, and they're not going to train jujitsu, probably anymore.

00:30:53.498 --> 00:30:54.220
They're going to be done.

00:30:54.220 --> 00:30:58.256
They're going to say my wife's not going to let me train, so or whoever.

00:30:59.317 --> 00:31:25.041
Yeah, I want to kind of kind of echo, like off of what you're saying, because I have personally trained at so many different gyms and I've seen like the wild west and I've seen controlled competition training as well and for a lot of folks out there, a lot of white belts out there, some of them are so untamed they're like a wild horse, yeah for sure, and you have to really be careful with that, you have to really watch that and, like you said, you have to protect your own students out there.

00:31:25.041 --> 00:31:33.412
When you hit the mat for training or competition, do you think there's a switch in your head that flips with your overall mindset?

00:31:33.412 --> 00:31:38.893
Like when you, when you guys, get into competition mode here, you're getting ready to go to Vegas to go compete.

00:31:38.893 --> 00:31:41.699
Is there something when you hit the mat?

00:31:41.699 --> 00:31:45.031
That's a personal mindset that you like to take in?

00:31:46.537 --> 00:31:49.605
I just like to be like I guess how they call it flow state.

00:31:49.605 --> 00:31:56.335
I just try to clear my head, just control my breathing, just stay calm, and I'm going to go out there and my body's going to do what it does.

00:31:57.299 --> 00:31:58.566
I guess everybody's a little bit different.

00:31:58.566 --> 00:31:59.892
We talked about that last time, don't we?

00:31:59.892 --> 00:32:09.351
So, outside of the technique, what do you try to instill in your students or some of the younger guys that are in at your school?

00:32:09.351 --> 00:32:16.810
What's some of the, I guess, personality character traits that you try to instill in some of the kids?

00:32:16.810 --> 00:32:17.853
That you have Grit.

00:32:19.736 --> 00:32:20.676
How to face adversity.

00:32:20.676 --> 00:32:23.301
Yeah, just like, have the dog, yeah, you know what I mean.

00:32:23.301 --> 00:32:26.315
Like they say you can't teach that, but I've.

00:32:26.315 --> 00:32:30.790
We've had a lot of people walking to our gym and I've seen complete changes in them.

00:32:30.790 --> 00:32:34.522
Like I'm talking, it's just such an amazing thing.

00:32:34.522 --> 00:32:43.321
So I think teaching people how to have great adversity, like just, yeah, we're known to go pretty hard at our gym, like we have really tough guys.

00:32:43.321 --> 00:32:48.999
So they, you, just we either pick it up and run with it or you end up leaving.

00:32:49.420 --> 00:32:52.498
So yeah, no, I've seen a lot of guys grow over the years, man.

00:32:52.498 --> 00:32:57.655
I've seen guys come in as soft as pillows, and now they're, and now they're as tough as nails.

00:32:57.655 --> 00:32:59.880
Yeah, sure, absolutely, sure, absolutely, absolutely.

00:32:59.880 --> 00:33:02.844
And I'm like, and here I am just getting older, year after year.

00:33:02.844 --> 00:33:07.037
These guys are in their thirties, like getting ready to reach the reach, their peak, you know.

00:33:07.037 --> 00:33:14.719
So I want to, I want to take a pause right now and see if I can switch this screen over, because I want to do a couple of um, uh, commentaries.

00:33:14.719 --> 00:33:15.602
Sure, with this.

00:33:24.089 --> 00:33:25.271
I don't know what this one here.

00:33:25.271 --> 00:33:27.455
No kids were hurt on this video, that's the wrestler right there.

00:33:27.476 --> 00:33:27.896
I thought I had him.

00:33:27.896 --> 00:33:30.461
All I know is form tackling, but his technique started to take over.

00:33:30.701 --> 00:33:33.272
I was the most tired I've ever been in my life.

00:33:33.272 --> 00:33:36.239
Yeah, at this point I'm playing football.

00:33:36.500 --> 00:34:00.431
I was done after this, but the crowd hyped me into another round, so we went again and I got cooked yeah, that's technique right there, regardless, love though it's a humbling experience when you, you know, never been in contact with a sport like that wrestling or jujitsu or judo and you face even a woman or a little kid and they whoop your ass and you're like, damn, I just got my ass beat by a 13 year old and that never happened to me.

00:34:00.651 --> 00:34:01.653
But I've seen it happen.

00:34:01.653 --> 00:34:02.855
I've been the 13 year old.

00:34:02.875 --> 00:34:08.043
That's been pretty nice yeah it is true, so watch this one here.

00:34:08.043 --> 00:34:11.257
This is, uh, you guys know, wes watson oh god, I I think I've seen this.

00:34:11.277 --> 00:34:14.351
This guy's a real douche took, did his jujitsu on him.

00:34:14.351 --> 00:34:17.940
Then the guy's gonna come back and duct tape his family.

00:34:17.940 --> 00:34:24.782
Okay, you don't want to fuck with the wrong people, and the wrong people out here in the world are not pro fighters.

00:34:24.782 --> 00:34:26.673
You guys need to wake up.

00:34:26.673 --> 00:34:29.681
These are very big time squares.

00:34:29.681 --> 00:34:32.536
Pro fighters are the epitome of squares.

00:34:32.536 --> 00:34:34.862
They're like come in the ring and I'll fight you.

00:34:34.862 --> 00:34:37.496
The people I grew up with and went to prison with.

00:34:37.496 --> 00:34:39.521
They don't give a fuck about a ring.

00:34:39.521 --> 00:34:44.681
They don't give a fuck if they're on camera and give a fuck if they have to fucking live the rest of their life in prison.

00:34:44.681 --> 00:34:46.617
You will not beat them.

00:34:46.617 --> 00:34:48.336
They will not take a loss.

00:34:48.336 --> 00:34:53.442
You guys live in a fantasy world where pro fighters aren't the biggest squares on the planet.

00:34:53.442 --> 00:34:54.896
Ufc fighting is gay.

00:34:54.896 --> 00:35:02.998
Like all that shit, like MMA fighting and all that shit is for people who never really were in fights, like they never whooped ass their whole life.

00:35:02.998 --> 00:35:08.297
So they're always like I'm going to train and fight, like I've always just handled shit.

00:35:08.931 --> 00:35:18.623
So I'm convinced that a lot of these guys cause this guy here is part of a group of influencers that just say shit.

00:35:18.623 --> 00:35:24.541
They just say things, they put it out there and they don't care if it even makes sense or if it's even correct.

00:35:25.630 --> 00:35:25.972
Deep down.

00:35:25.972 --> 00:35:27.617
That guy's a pussy bro.

00:35:27.617 --> 00:35:28.239
100%.

00:35:28.811 --> 00:35:31.056
Oh, he totally is Like I don't care if he's been to prison or not.

00:35:32.510 --> 00:35:35.460
The thing is, how are you going to say professional fighters?

00:35:35.460 --> 00:35:40.721
That's what they do, and a lot of those guys who are professional fighters can also take it the same distance.

00:35:40.721 --> 00:35:43.735
Yeah, professional fighters could also take it that same distance.

00:35:43.735 --> 00:35:44.016
Yeah, not only.

00:35:44.016 --> 00:35:45.300
And think about this, they may have a gang right.

00:35:45.300 --> 00:35:46.284
These guys that train jujitsu.

00:35:46.284 --> 00:35:48.952
We have all our teammates train, right, we have friends who train.

00:35:48.952 --> 00:35:49.592
We.

00:35:49.592 --> 00:35:52.059
We, technically, are a gang right.

00:35:52.059 --> 00:35:54.956
Right, like you want to battle a bunch of guys who've been to prison off.

00:35:54.956 --> 00:36:02.681
If you've been to prison, that's fine, but it's having that mentality of, oh, just because I went to prison, I've been in a few fistfights, that that makes me super hardened and tough.

00:36:02.681 --> 00:36:03.503
That don't make you shit.

00:36:03.503 --> 00:36:10.393
Training breaks you down, builds you up, teaches you how to be losing every day and come back this guy don't know shit.

00:36:10.393 --> 00:36:11.338
That guy has an ego.

00:36:11.338 --> 00:36:13.679
I would actually like to fight.

00:36:13.699 --> 00:36:15.070
This guy bare knuckle at any moment.

00:36:15.070 --> 00:36:18.800
So if I run into him, please, I'll fight it Anytime.

00:36:23.369 --> 00:36:24.795
Because I always just extinguish the problem, however I had to.

00:36:24.795 --> 00:36:28.346
So the point is is like that's for people who, like, never could really fight, they had to go learn to fight.

00:36:28.346 --> 00:36:32.538
I mean people who just handle business, they don't have to learn to fight.

00:36:32.538 --> 00:36:35.331
There's a difference between fighters and violent people.

00:36:35.331 --> 00:36:46.521
You should really stay away from violent people, because it doesn't matter how good you are at fighting, when they want to take it to the level, they'll take you out, and so there's a huge difference here.

00:36:46.521 --> 00:36:48.644
You guys have it all misconstrued.

00:36:48.644 --> 00:36:51.135
Fighting is some weird sports shit.

00:36:51.135 --> 00:36:59.106
That is all these people do and it has nothing to do with violence, because a violent person will end your life, and this is the thing.

00:36:59.106 --> 00:37:13.396
You guys need to quit thinking that ufc people are going to be able to fuck around with violent motherfuckers, because a violent motherfucker won't lose, he won't take it and you'll be like wait, put the gloves on and he's not going to hear it and it's going to be a problem for you.

00:37:13.416 --> 00:37:15.021
This guy's never trained a day in his life.

00:37:15.021 --> 00:37:17.541
He would he like he would be humbled.

00:37:17.541 --> 00:37:18.143
Why?

00:37:18.143 --> 00:37:18.545
Are you talking?

00:37:18.585 --> 00:37:19.108
about gloves.

00:37:19.108 --> 00:37:24.489
If a pressure, if a professional fighter goes outside with you and there is no gloves, you're going to go bare knuckle.

00:37:25.210 --> 00:37:26.737
Yeah, meet Nick Diaz out in the street.

00:37:26.737 --> 00:37:32.538
He's not going to say put on the gloves, I'm going to say bare knuckle, fight you, or they might even pull out a gun and shoot you too.

00:37:34.210 --> 00:37:37.561
There's still people who cause violence.

00:37:37.561 --> 00:37:40.679
Elbowing someone's face with technique is violence.

00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:41.240
You know what I'm saying.

00:37:46.769 --> 00:37:47.733
Like suplexing someone on their head is violence.

00:37:47.733 --> 00:37:50.005
Yeah, this guy sounds scared like if you, if mike tried to fight him, he'd probably pull out a gun and try to shoot.

00:37:50.025 --> 00:37:56.711
Well, usually, though, when that's like what they call peacocking, right, where someone tries to be like, say stuff and be real brash, those people are the softest people around.

00:37:56.711 --> 00:38:00.318
You know, people who talk shit the loudest usually are wimps, right?

00:38:00.318 --> 00:38:03.884
So people who are quiet and humble are the people you want to worry about.

00:38:03.884 --> 00:38:05.393
You know, because they're, oh yeah.

00:38:05.414 --> 00:38:09.496
They got nothing to prove, no doubt, so I'll show you this next one here.

00:38:09.496 --> 00:38:10.889
I don't know if you guys have seen this one or not.

00:38:11.190 --> 00:38:14.340
This guy used Brazilian jiu-jitsu to defend his daughter from aggressors.

00:38:14.340 --> 00:38:16.056
Imagine if he didn't know how to fight.

00:38:17.710 --> 00:38:18.952
Yes, this is my dad.

00:38:18.952 --> 00:38:21.295
They're fighting right now, my dad, just I'm 19.

00:38:39.411 --> 00:38:40.032
Think about it, just control.

00:38:40.052 --> 00:38:42.221
That was really nice of him what he did, he could have turned that situation extremely violent.

00:38:42.221 --> 00:38:44.849
You know, I'm saying like oh yeah, yeah, that guy didn't train, he probably started throwing punches.

00:38:44.849 --> 00:38:46.155
Probably not that guy out, maybe kill him somehow.

00:38:46.155 --> 00:38:46.920
Yeah and it goes to prison.

00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:48.106
But no, he controlled.

00:38:48.106 --> 00:38:49.192
It, controlled the situation.

00:38:49.192 --> 00:38:51.420
Family safe, he's safe, that guy's safe.

00:38:52.726 --> 00:38:53.510
I want to show you this out.

00:38:53.510 --> 00:38:55.034
Show you this one right here too.

00:38:55.034 --> 00:38:58.467
All right, this guy trains at the gym.

00:38:58.467 --> 00:38:59.351
No, I'm just kidding.

00:38:59.351 --> 00:39:04.280
I don't know here what's what's up, break my arm you're getting charges from gas out.

00:39:04.300 --> 00:39:10.320
Hold it and look at it, fully depleted of all new tricky jobs no, I fucking been supposed to be why?

00:39:10.780 --> 00:39:18.842
because I own the fucking building okay, I gotta recognize you're getting evicted now, really just relaxing on top, just kind of hanging out there.

00:39:19.690 --> 00:39:21.523
But you guys see that that's actually kind of funny.

00:39:21.603 --> 00:39:23.373
I don't think either of those guys trained, to be honest.

00:39:23.393 --> 00:39:24.800
Yeah no, I mean.

00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:27.231
But I mean, for the big guy actually did a pretty.

00:39:27.231 --> 00:39:28.012
Yeah, he was all.

00:39:28.012 --> 00:39:29.577
They had him some dude, you know.

00:39:29.577 --> 00:39:32.282
But so this one here I got into.

00:39:32.282 --> 00:39:42.858
I got into some uh, trouble with online because I, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I want you guys to watch this and I want you to tell me what you honestly think about this.

00:39:42.858 --> 00:39:54.786
This person posts a lot, and I'm not saying they don't know what they're doing, but I think there's a difference between, like when someone is posting something because they want clicks, versus they're posting something because they believe it really works.

00:39:54.786 --> 00:39:56.172
So tell me what you think about this.

00:39:57.655 --> 00:40:00.501
If someone grabs you, like this step to parallel with him.

00:40:00.501 --> 00:40:08.322
Now bring your arm straight above your head and back and the key is to grip just above the elbow joint, palm to palm, to break that arm.

00:40:08.322 --> 00:40:14.322
And if you don't have the angle to go for this, it means his elbow is perfectly positioned for you to pull it the opposite way.

00:40:14.322 --> 00:40:16.916
Now hyperextend the elbow for the break.

00:40:16.916 --> 00:40:18.260
Stay safe out there.

00:40:18.530 --> 00:40:19.514
I don't know about that one.

00:40:19.514 --> 00:40:25.076
I can it working, but you would have to, your timing would have to be so perfect and that's like.

00:40:25.759 --> 00:40:50.880
That's like just basic, like jujitsu old school fundamentals, if I'm not mistaken right like so this, this is my take on this right here and this and you guys are way more advanced than I am, but to me, like if you get to this spot right here and you go to do this like loop-de-loop thing under stress and anxiety, under stress and anxiety, you've got like 0.3 seconds before you eat a fist from this other arm.

00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:51.842
That's just hanging there.

00:40:52.003 --> 00:40:52.784
You're a hundred percent right.

00:40:52.784 --> 00:41:00.253
It's almost, but it's almost like she's doing it, like it's like a sport, like, oh, he's not going to punch me, right?

00:41:00.253 --> 00:41:05.335
These are things that you want to close the distance as close as possible Right here, If he has your hair, yeah.

00:41:05.335 --> 00:41:11.255
Or look look at his head and her face there's a headbutt, oh, exactly Five, ten inches away, yeah.

00:41:11.978 --> 00:41:19.476
I mean, and now he has an underhook, so now he's in a body hugger and suplexer, he can pull her closer, say that like she's not showing anything.

00:41:19.496 --> 00:41:20.297
That could work.

00:41:20.297 --> 00:41:25.335
But I mean, that's nothing that I would show for self-defense, that's especially to a woman.

00:41:25.335 --> 00:41:30.536
Yeah, I mean, if someone grabs your hair like that, you would want to get as close to them as possible.

00:41:30.536 --> 00:41:32.530
You don't want them pulling your hair out or controlling.

00:41:32.530 --> 00:41:34.155
You'd want to be to where they can't yank you.

00:41:34.155 --> 00:41:38.894
You'd want to be body locking them or to their back, especially if you know jujitsu, that's we'd want to be.

00:41:38.934 --> 00:41:52.818
That's going to be the spot we could put him to sleep, you know another thing, too, is like when you're teaching like self-defense and things like that, you want to get people used to getting loud and yelling because if you're like in a dark alley or around the corner or something, you want to wake up the neighborhood like you want to.

00:41:52.818 --> 00:42:01.481
You don't want to quietly wrap your arm around somebody else's a much bigger man's arm and think that you're going to give them some half-ass, like kimura that.

00:42:01.481 --> 00:42:16.072
So I made a comment that this was not real and like literally there was probably 300 comments back to me saying that I was just an asshole and I'm I I don't know what I'm talking about and I'm just like come on, man, I'm not going to let you do that to my arm.

00:42:16.072 --> 00:42:20.954
Yeah, I'm going to underhook you and I'm gonna throw you and slam you on the ground and they're not just going to grab your hair.

00:42:20.994 --> 00:42:21.797
Someone actually wants to take you.

00:42:21.797 --> 00:42:23.521
They're gonna wrap their arms around your body.

00:42:23.521 --> 00:42:28.822
Yeah, try to slam you, take you somewhere or pull you backward yeah, grab here and let you stand up.

00:42:28.849 --> 00:42:32.018
They're gonna grab you and yank you to the floor, knock you off balance.

00:42:32.018 --> 00:42:39.719
Like I said, not to say that it's not something that could work, but the cleanest thing about that video was the elbow, and the elbow you'd want to throw from, just like a Thai boxing position.

00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:41.021
You know it is what it is.

00:42:41.402 --> 00:42:49.396
And that was kind of my point to that was but of course all these other people was, you know, making these comments on it or whatever.

00:42:49.396 --> 00:42:50.018
So, okay, cool.

00:42:50.018 --> 00:42:53.688
So I'm glad you guys kind of agree with me on that one.

00:42:53.829 --> 00:42:54.673
Yeah, no, absolutely.

00:42:55.215 --> 00:42:58.992
I just want to know what you guys think about these new little boot camps that are popping up.

00:42:59.052 --> 00:43:07.327
That's like the, it's like those navy seal like right up over there, sick of this shit, spent the fucking hour.

00:43:07.327 --> 00:43:20.260
You guys don't want to listen right over here our soldiers or anything.

00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:20.983
They're just doing this.

00:43:21.003 --> 00:43:23.340
You guys haven't seen this no, never you guys haven't seen this.

00:43:23.340 --> 00:43:24.367
No, never you guys haven't seen this.

00:43:24.367 --> 00:43:26.614
No, this looks really fucking stupid.

00:43:26.614 --> 00:43:27.036
It does.

00:43:27.036 --> 00:43:27.659
It's pissing me off.

00:43:28.934 --> 00:43:30.039
So this is the new craze.

00:43:30.170 --> 00:44:00.077
They've got these fucking Navy SEAL guys, special Forces guys, and what they'll do is they'll make up these little fake boot camps and there's some here in the Inland Empire and I've argued with people about it because I think this is bullshit and so you've got these guys that never served in the military, never have done anything tough in their life, and what they'll do is they'll pay these former military people to put them through a makeshift mock-up book like Navy SEAL training boot camp or some shit like that, and they'll just degrade them the whole time.

00:44:00.590 --> 00:44:05.858
And they pay like $10,000 to do this, and I thousand dollars.

00:44:05.858 --> 00:44:08.101
Dude, they pay big money for this shit.

00:44:08.101 --> 00:44:13.003
We can do this, dude, and so, so, anyway, so it's, it's like, completely degraded.

00:44:13.003 --> 00:44:27.324
The thing is there's a difference, because I have a friend who went through one in florida, but the one that he went through was religious based, and so what they do is they put you in teams and you're expected to come together as a team to overcome obstacles.

00:44:27.324 --> 00:44:32.021
These things here which I'll show you, they literally just, they just like.

00:44:33.731 --> 00:44:35.056
Southern California weather.

00:44:35.056 --> 00:44:37.800
You told your family I'm going to sunny Southern California.

00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:38.501
Look what happened.

00:44:38.501 --> 00:44:41.159
Talk to people in your life that don't need to be there.

00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:44.775
Even if it's your father, your mother, fuck that don't don't need to be there.

00:44:44.775 --> 00:44:47.682
Even if it's your father, your mother, fuck them you don't need them.

00:44:47.702 --> 00:44:47.902
You got us.

00:44:47.902 --> 00:44:51.175
You don't fucking need them anymore that's crazy.

00:44:51.195 --> 00:44:51.496
Hold on.

00:44:51.496 --> 00:44:57.974
I mean, these guys have got to be the most, not even beta like charlie males and these are guys that just like.

00:44:57.974 --> 00:44:59.938
Why would you pay for this bro?

00:44:59.978 --> 00:45:01.603
go, just go lift weights.

00:45:01.603 --> 00:45:03.755
Or go to a jiu-jitsu gym or fuck it.

00:45:03.755 --> 00:45:04.559
Go learn karate.

00:45:04.989 --> 00:45:08.481
I guarantee you take these guys who just got done with this, put them in a jits class.

00:45:08.481 --> 00:45:10.817
They can't even last two rounds, yeah.

00:45:11.510 --> 00:45:28.726
I mean honestly, if I met this guy face-to-face, I would tell him that this is bullshit, this is ridiculous, and I've actually gotten into it with people before about it, people that defend this kind of stuff and I'm like, no, I mean, look, absolutely stupid at the end of the day, you can spend your money doing whatever you like, but that's supposed to make you an alpha.

00:45:28.746 --> 00:45:30.088
That's gonna make you a douche.

00:45:30.088 --> 00:45:31.327
I got you another one right here.

00:45:31.967 --> 00:45:35.594
Look at this you don't fucking deserve to be here fucking quit.

00:45:36.054 --> 00:45:36.916
You, piece of shit.

00:45:36.916 --> 00:45:39.121
I want to be a better man.

00:45:39.121 --> 00:45:40.331
I want to be a better husband.

00:45:40.331 --> 00:45:40.934
I want to be a better father.

00:45:40.934 --> 00:45:41.777
I want to be a better man.

00:45:41.777 --> 00:45:42.460
I want to be a better husband.

00:45:42.460 --> 00:45:43.163
I want to be a better father.

00:45:43.163 --> 00:45:43.724
I want to be a better.

00:45:43.724 --> 00:45:44.829
You fucking whiny piece of shit.

00:45:44.829 --> 00:45:46.753
I mean it's not a.

00:45:46.773 --> 00:45:47.737
You deserve to be here.

00:45:47.737 --> 00:45:49.155
That's how I teach classes.

00:45:49.711 --> 00:45:50.639
Dude, I mean these people.

00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:51.989
I mean I don't know if it's $10,000.

00:45:51.989 --> 00:45:53.275
I mean people pay good money.

00:45:53.275 --> 00:45:55.858
I'll look it up, but people pay good money for this.

00:45:55.858 --> 00:46:05.032
And they will put for like a week or so.

00:46:05.032 --> 00:46:05.612
Make you a real man come out.

00:46:05.612 --> 00:46:06.514
Still, you better move with a fucking purpose.

00:46:06.514 --> 00:46:06.755
Belly what.

00:46:06.755 --> 00:46:07.115
Look at that feet.

00:46:07.115 --> 00:46:07.998
You know the sad thing is.

00:46:08.038 --> 00:46:19.302
You know the sad thing is, I know, I know guys that would probably take up this offer right here I mean no offense to these guys, but, bro, this is like the opposite of alpha, this is like beta male shit.

00:46:19.322 --> 00:46:27.063
This is like them peeing and spitting on you and you paying them money yeah, they're supposed to make you a man so you can go home and be a good family man and respectable.

00:46:27.063 --> 00:46:28.876
You're going to be a father after doing this shit.

00:46:28.876 --> 00:46:31.358
Go to church, go to Jets Exactly, you're good.

00:46:31.358 --> 00:46:33.143
You need Jesus in your life guys Gosh.

00:46:35.856 --> 00:46:38.101
This is what tells me that the human race has reached its apex.

00:46:48.289 --> 00:46:49.440
Those guys are making a full-blown living driving raptors and shit, doing this to people.

00:46:49.318 --> 00:46:50.175
That's crazy.

00:46:50.175 --> 00:46:50.847
Yeah, this is back.

00:46:50.847 --> 00:46:51.199
No, hurry up.

00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:53.278
Look at the guys doing it, though feet, it's back.

00:46:53.155 --> 00:46:53.192
Get over here.

00:46:53.192 --> 00:46:53.099
Have them on the podcast.

00:46:53.099 --> 00:46:54.815
Where's you, you fucking slow?

00:46:54.815 --> 00:46:55.817
Get over here, fucking.

00:46:55.876 --> 00:47:01.538
I'm joking never, heard of that shit sit down, sit down right here, maybe chris you two are gonna share this.

00:47:01.557 --> 00:47:05.195
this is crazy to me All of you start crawling, Start crawling.

00:47:06.673 --> 00:47:12.733
Start shrimping, start shrimping, you're going to crawl and suffer until you're done with that cookie, until the both of you are done sharing that fucking cookie.

00:47:12.773 --> 00:47:13.797
Start my own cookies.

00:47:13.797 --> 00:47:19.237
The sad thing is that there's people that I know that think this is cool.

00:47:30.230 --> 00:47:31.016
And they think that this would be cool to sign up for.

00:47:31.016 --> 00:47:31.528
I'd rather go on a camping trip with my buddies.

00:47:31.528 --> 00:47:33.976
Don't do this here you go yeah, well, so they do a little jiu-jitsu.

00:47:33.976 --> 00:47:34.469
I never experienced that.

00:47:34.469 --> 00:47:35.036
It looks like it, yeah.

00:47:35.036 --> 00:47:35.817
So I mean, I just said I never experienced.

00:47:35.817 --> 00:47:36.478
Did he really say that?

00:47:36.478 --> 00:47:40.737
Yeah, oh, look at the instructors, bro, they probably they're just, they're just destroying them.

00:47:40.737 --> 00:47:41.923
Oh, is that what they?

00:47:41.923 --> 00:47:45.556
Yeah, those are the instructors beating these guys bitch and the beast.

00:47:45.657 --> 00:47:48.733
The bitch is the inner critic, the beast is the advocate.

00:47:48.733 --> 00:48:00.315
The advocate supports you, roots you on, cheers for you, but the critic, your inner bitch, is always doubting you and telling you that you can't and that you've done enough, and to set lower goals and expectations of yourself.

00:48:00.315 --> 00:48:03.742
When I go into into the gym every morning, I go to war with my body.

00:48:03.742 --> 00:48:05.056
I go to war with the weights.

00:48:05.056 --> 00:48:11.396
I go to war with my mindset, with that bitch voice in my head that says put the weights down, you've done enough sets and reps.

00:48:11.396 --> 00:48:13.898
And I know you're like damn bro, that sounds intense.

00:48:14.030 --> 00:48:16.115
It feels like they're making followers instead of leaders.

00:48:16.456 --> 00:48:18.362
Yeah, exactly, isn't that weird?

00:48:18.362 --> 00:48:26.405
And you know that that happens here, like right right out here in the inland empire there's, there's a place out there maybe I'll check it out I don't know.

00:48:26.405 --> 00:48:26.806
I thought that.

00:48:26.806 --> 00:48:30.027
I thought this one was funny and this one's uh, I know this guy.

00:48:30.047 --> 00:48:32.413
I don't know him personally, but I know like his instagram and shit.

00:48:32.432 --> 00:48:37.952
I don't know who needs to hear this but I'm not going to your 6 am fucking jujitsu class.

00:48:37.952 --> 00:48:38.673
What are you?

00:48:38.673 --> 00:48:39.916
A fucking vampire?

00:48:39.916 --> 00:48:41.581
No, I guys know who that is.

00:48:41.581 --> 00:48:42.862
No, I sleep bro.

00:48:42.862 --> 00:48:45.458
I got things that go on throughout the day.

00:48:45.969 --> 00:48:46.871
Six AMs for me, bro.

00:48:46.871 --> 00:48:47.492
Yeah, I'm sleeping.

00:48:47.733 --> 00:48:48.614
I just thought, that was funny.

00:48:49.155 --> 00:48:49.916
Oh, that guy's funny.

00:48:49.916 --> 00:48:50.778
I like his videos.

00:48:50.778 --> 00:48:51.701
He's really cool.

00:48:51.701 --> 00:48:54.045
Yeah, oh, here we go, here we go.

00:48:54.731 --> 00:48:57.197
This is what every dad needs.

00:48:57.197 --> 00:48:58.501
To see this right here.

00:48:58.501 --> 00:49:12.041
Every dad needs to can see this because this is this is right here.

00:49:12.061 --> 00:49:14.063
When somebody just slaps your kid like that.

00:49:14.063 --> 00:49:16.775
You know I've seen another video where that something like that happens.

00:49:16.775 --> 00:49:18.201
Could you imagine?

00:49:18.201 --> 00:49:19.545
Yeah, I don't do?

00:49:19.786 --> 00:49:22.775
what would you do if someone smacked, smacked your daughter like that right?

00:49:22.775 --> 00:49:24.701
Right in front of you, it'd be over probably kill her.

00:49:25.001 --> 00:49:27.166
Yeah, probably go to prison.

00:49:27.166 --> 00:49:30.054
I'd be very upset, honestly, you know.

00:49:30.054 --> 00:49:32.661
Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't like that's why that, you know.

00:49:32.701 --> 00:49:36.137
That's why I appreciate the dads that actually I shouldn't say dads the moms too.

00:49:36.137 --> 00:49:44.416
Um, that then, the parents that just train, they don't just send their kid out there and yell stupid shit from the sidelines, but they actually know.

00:49:44.416 --> 00:49:46.795
Like, does that annoy you ever?

00:49:46.795 --> 00:49:51.722
Like whenever, whenever parents are yelling things that they really don't understand themselves, absolutely.

00:49:51.929 --> 00:49:58.454
Professor Lucas used to have a thing that said if you want to coach your kid, you got to take some classes first.

00:49:58.454 --> 00:50:04.259
So if you've never trained jujitsu, you can't sit here and say it because you don't know the hardships it takes to do jujitsu.

00:50:04.259 --> 00:50:06.963
Right, just get up, get the kid off you.

00:50:06.963 --> 00:50:10.905
Well, the kid's been training a while, he's your kid's not getting up, right, it's his third class.

00:50:10.905 --> 00:50:12.311
You gotta he's gotta be patient.

00:50:12.311 --> 00:50:14.797
You gotta be encouraging to your child, right?

00:50:14.797 --> 00:50:15.057
Can't?

00:50:15.057 --> 00:50:17.371
Oh, you should have just got up and tried, okay.

00:50:17.371 --> 00:50:20.217
Well then, let me get on top of you and you get up and try.

00:50:20.217 --> 00:50:21.298
I had a buddy.

00:50:21.500 --> 00:50:23.811
I had a buddy like that who, uh, whose kid would wrestle?

00:50:23.811 --> 00:50:27.826
And when he would yell at his kid and the guy never wrestled before.

00:50:27.826 --> 00:50:32.179
And I'd tell him, like you know, you've, you don't even know what you're talking about, you're just screaming.

00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:33.251
You're not even saying anything.

00:50:33.251 --> 00:50:40.615
I mean, having passion for your kid is good, but one thing if they're out there and enduring it and going through the hardships and you have to be supportive, you can't be a jerk.

00:50:40.615 --> 00:50:41.797
They don't not want to do it.

00:50:41.838 --> 00:50:44.983
You know exactly all right, let me.

00:50:44.983 --> 00:50:46.905
Oh, you know, I didn't know I could just do this.

00:50:46.905 --> 00:50:49.255
This is funny, that's right, you got someone.

00:50:49.976 --> 00:50:51.300
You got someone your shirt, that's right.

00:50:51.300 --> 00:50:52.931
What do you want?

00:50:52.931 --> 00:50:54.715
I just wonder what we did in math.

00:50:54.856 --> 00:50:55.478
Well, that's funny.

00:50:55.478 --> 00:50:58.253
All those shots he's hitting that dude will do nothing but piss me off.

00:50:58.253 --> 00:51:00.400
Let me see, I'm dead serious.

00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:01.722
Legit there it is.

00:51:01.722 --> 00:51:07.177
That last one was actually the last one was the most legit thing he did it was yeah, actually, you know how to get up properly.

00:51:07.739 --> 00:51:08.800
That's some funny shit.

00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:11.434
All right, let me check out one more.

00:51:11.434 --> 00:51:13.860
Oh, I want to show you this one, and then, and then, and then.

00:51:13.860 --> 00:51:15.233
This will be it, this will be it.

00:51:15.233 --> 00:51:16.097
Watch, look.

00:51:16.097 --> 00:51:18.047
And I just want to get you guys to comment on this.

00:51:18.047 --> 00:51:20.675
Okay, I just want to think okay, so you got pepper sprayed.

00:51:20.675 --> 00:51:27.097
This is, this is, uh, some type of law enforcement training like for corrections or something.

00:51:27.097 --> 00:51:29.313
There's no sound on this one, not even I mean.

00:51:29.313 --> 00:51:31.820
Yeah, so have you guys been pepper?

00:51:31.862 --> 00:51:32.925
sprayed before, never.

00:51:32.925 --> 00:51:37.215
I accidentally pepper sprayed myself one time so I got.

00:51:37.396 --> 00:51:44.010
So I I've been oc sprayed before and involuntarily it does shut down, it just shut down, it just shut your eyes.

00:51:44.010 --> 00:51:50.797
So like when I went through my scenarios, I had to like hold my eye open like this and then like use the baton and you got to fight through it.

00:51:50.797 --> 00:51:51.297
You know what I mean.

00:51:51.297 --> 00:52:01.496
But in this case, right here, like she just like I mean that just looks really pathetic, like she completely swung and she missed with the baton.

00:52:01.496 --> 00:52:07.380
Her hand hurt, her hand hurts now from hitting the fucking pad, like you know you're fired.

00:52:07.380 --> 00:52:10.597
Like like if this was real life, like you really would be just dead right.

00:52:10.597 --> 00:52:24.523
Yeah, and I know there's no volume on this one, but this one here they're like cheering her on and stuff, just like.

00:52:24.523 --> 00:52:27.728
I just want to take it back to the beginning, though.

00:52:27.728 --> 00:52:29.998
Over here, like the guy overseeing it.

00:52:30.420 --> 00:52:33.952
Exactly that's funny look at that, like he's an instructor here.

00:52:33.952 --> 00:52:35.257
I'll show you how it's done really.

00:52:35.257 --> 00:52:38.710
I mean, he's like three people all in one set of clothing.

00:52:38.710 --> 00:52:42.480
I'm gonna be mean, but like, bro, like where's the standard set?

00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.016
This is what you put in front of your people.

00:52:45.016 --> 00:52:46.059
I don't know this.

00:52:46.059 --> 00:52:47.485
This whole scenario just bothered me.

00:52:47.485 --> 00:52:53.309
I wish there were some actual sound on this one, but there's not, sorry oh, you're good, that's funny bro all right.

00:52:53.411 --> 00:53:01.054
So anyways, in closing, I'm gonna make sure I clean up all those, all those uh videos and and do a little smoother next time, and uh that we're do it.

00:53:01.054 --> 00:53:10.934
Juno yo, before we round things out, man, what do you think of the pod, of the pod of being back in la your upcoming competition?

00:53:10.934 --> 00:53:11.956
This?

00:53:11.996 --> 00:53:19.257
pod is dope, bro, this room is sick, but uh, being in la is nice, man, it's always good to come back, train, teach, be at the guys out here.

00:53:19.257 --> 00:53:23.277
No, I miss all these guys out here, but gotta be back with my family right now.

00:53:23.277 --> 00:53:25.358
But it's been good, bro, can't wait to compete.

00:53:25.358 --> 00:53:26.996
Haven't competed since February.

00:53:26.996 --> 00:53:30.277
Just kind of had some bad luck lately with being sick or injured.

00:53:30.277 --> 00:53:32.835
So yeah, mitch, and get back out there.

00:53:32.835 --> 00:53:34.280
Are you how long in town for?

00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.998
Probably till Monday, sunday, monday.

00:53:38.650 --> 00:53:41.677
I appreciate you stopping by, man and let me give you a quick interview and everything.

00:53:41.677 --> 00:53:50.525
And you know, hopefully, if down the road, man, you never know, maybe we can Mike gets into a bigger spot, we'll set a podcast studio in there and we'll have everything set up.

00:53:50.525 --> 00:53:51.710
And yeah, that'd be dope.

00:53:52.030 --> 00:53:53.132
I was kind of nervous for this one.

00:53:53.132 --> 00:53:54.954
But no, why, I don't know.

00:53:54.954 --> 00:54:00.782
Just ever been on a pod, never had a microphone in my face, cameras in my face, you look good man, it's a little different.

00:54:00.782 --> 00:54:02.083
You look good, I think.

00:54:02.083 --> 00:54:02.764
I think it went well.

00:54:03.125 --> 00:54:06.210
Do you have, do you have any messages for anyone that uh listen to this.

00:54:06.210 --> 00:54:07.731
That's part of your, a part of your crew.

00:54:08.132 --> 00:54:08.753
Just my brothers.

00:54:08.753 --> 00:54:11.514
Man, I love my brothers, you know they're in it with me.

00:54:11.514 --> 00:54:19.458
No, we're trying to open my brothers AJ and Jesse.

00:54:19.458 --> 00:54:20.860
What's with the name?

00:54:20.860 --> 00:54:22.740
The name Farallon.

00:54:22.740 --> 00:54:25.382
It means high, dwelling like steep cliffs.

00:54:25.382 --> 00:54:32.387
It's kind of a metaphor for jujitsu Always climbing the cliff, trying to get higher, get better.

00:54:33.007 --> 00:54:34.228
So is your gym open now or no?

00:54:37.050 --> 00:54:39.530
No, still trying to talk to the investors and all that stuff, but the ball should get rolling pretty fast soon hopefully.

00:54:40.250 --> 00:54:47.034
So once you do get started, we'll talk about that next time, I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of things that you don't know, that you're gonna know.

00:54:47.054 --> 00:54:58.050
Yeah, a lot of uh bumps in the road I'm sure to come, but gotta overcome it yeah well, you're in great hands with uh magic mike over here oh yeah, definitely got a good mentor yeah, what do you think, mike?

00:54:58.349 --> 00:54:58.731
I love it.

00:54:58.731 --> 00:54:59.771
I love everything.

00:54:59.771 --> 00:55:00.172
I mean I'm.

00:55:00.172 --> 00:55:01.413
I love california.

00:55:01.413 --> 00:55:05.014
You know I the gym has brought in nothing but great people, including yourself.

00:55:05.014 --> 00:55:10.798
You came in random and everyone I've great friendships with.

00:55:10.798 --> 00:55:14.061
Having Juno always down is great, because when he comes down he always teaches.

00:55:14.061 --> 00:55:20.606
Everyone loves to learn from him, so it helps me out and, yeah, makes everybody better.

00:55:20.606 --> 00:55:24.271
You know, like I said, it's, it's been a family thing for us our whole lives.

00:55:24.271 --> 00:55:33.342
You know my whole family trains, yeah, the way from my uh youngest niece all the way to my oldest nephew, so we always uh got it covered.

00:55:33.603 --> 00:55:35.389
So, yeah, yeah, man, no, I really.

00:55:35.389 --> 00:55:38.664
I really appreciate both of you for letting me come into your gym and train.

00:55:38.664 --> 00:55:41.853
Uh, like I said, I found you because, uh, I was picking up a pizza.

00:55:41.853 --> 00:55:42.474
I didn't know.

00:55:42.474 --> 00:55:45.322
I think you just opened up, you didn't have a banner up yet, even no.

00:55:45.322 --> 00:55:50.157
So it was uh, and things happen for a reason, absolutely things happen for a reason.

00:55:50.157 --> 00:55:52.969
So one last question, and we'll round it off here.

00:55:52.969 --> 00:55:57.164
But, uh, do you know if you had to walk out for a super fight, what's your anthem?

00:55:58.367 --> 00:56:00.737
oh, that's a hard one, something kid cuddy probably.

00:56:00.737 --> 00:56:01.902
I'm a big kid cuddy fan, hey at night.

00:56:01.902 --> 00:56:03.186
Yeah, that's a hard one, something kid cuddy probably.

00:56:03.186 --> 00:56:09.963
I'm a big kid cuddy fan, hey at night that's a good one, seriously or king wizard I was just kidding, I'm a little bit of wizard myself.

00:56:09.963 --> 00:56:12.114
Uh, or something by drake.

00:56:12.173 --> 00:56:19.818
I'm a big drake fan we got magic mike the magician, and we have juno the wizard, or judini is what they like to call me.

00:56:19.818 --> 00:56:21.382
That's right, they called you that last time.

00:56:21.690 --> 00:56:25.001
But yeah, gave you a shout out, shout out, nate, you just got his purple, belt.

00:56:25.001 --> 00:56:26.579
Yeah, he got his purple belt last night.

00:56:26.579 --> 00:56:27.304
He's the boy, what.

00:56:28.329 --> 00:56:29.472
Yeah, he got his purple belt last night.

00:56:29.793 --> 00:56:30.514
He's like family.

00:56:30.835 --> 00:56:31.195
Nice.

00:56:31.195 --> 00:56:32.760
I'm proud of him.

00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:33.521
He's like a brother.

00:56:33.782 --> 00:56:44.135
That's awesome oh yeah the redheaded, yeah, the redheaded sibling, yeah, congrats, nate.

00:56:44.135 --> 00:56:44.856
Good job, man.

00:56:44.856 --> 00:56:46.119
Shit, nate's a tough dude.

00:56:46.139 --> 00:56:48.110
For sure, bro Nate's gonna be a savage.

00:56:48.110 --> 00:56:51.795
I gotta get my licks now till he's banging with me soon.

00:56:51.815 --> 00:56:54.766
So yeah, absolutely he's gonna be.

00:56:54.766 --> 00:56:55.128
He's gonna be.

00:56:55.128 --> 00:56:56.735
Trouble is right now actually.

00:56:56.735 --> 00:56:58.737
I mean, yeah, he's already trouble, I know.

00:56:59.271 --> 00:57:01.501
I gotta turn it up to kind of put it on him he's tough.

00:57:01.501 --> 00:57:02.907
What's your anthem, mike?

00:57:02.907 --> 00:57:03.650
Super fight.

00:57:03.650 --> 00:57:07.581
You're walking out jeez, probably lmfao.

00:57:08.123 --> 00:57:10.248
No, you know, maybe I mean no, probably.

00:57:10.248 --> 00:57:11.251
Uh, maybe california.

00:57:11.291 --> 00:57:13.161
Love by tupac oh yeah, that's a good one.

00:57:13.161 --> 00:57:13.742
You know, I like it.

00:57:13.923 --> 00:57:21.391
I like to claim california now as my own, so yeah, dude, those old school riffs, man, they, they have never been replaced, never.

00:57:21.391 --> 00:57:22.692
The kids today are listening to them.

00:57:22.692 --> 00:57:25.175
Yeah, damn right, all right guys.

00:57:25.175 --> 00:57:27.458
Well, hey, I want to say thank you for joining me on the podcast.

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Man, we're going to have you back again.

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I hope you guys are willing to do it again.

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Yeah, there's some of them here for sure.

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Clean up the videos a little bit and we'll put together a playlist and uh and do some commentary.

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Let's go.

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I love it.

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Thanks for having us man appreciate it.

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It's always, uh, you always make us feel really welcome and, you know, really appreciate it.

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Thanks for believing in the, in our journey as well.

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So and yeah, too easy, man.

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You guys are both like great guys, man.

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You guys definitely.

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I think you gain a lot more respect for people when you get on the mats and you have them whoop your ass and and so it's like it's I look at people differently, man, you know, oh yeah, but anyways, hey, for everyone else out there, thanks for joining us.

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I hope you guys learned a little bit more about juno, judini and uh and mike.

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So thank you for joining us.

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I appreciate you guys.

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As always, I want you stay tuned, stay focused and stay motivated.

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Warriors fall out.