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Welcome to the Morning Formation interviews and hilarious skits.
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He's the creative force behind the job balloon show, so I want to dive in the world of his viral content and his concepts behind comedy, because he definitely caught my attention to the point where I was just binge watching all of his content uh, all in one evening, and I I love it.
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Whenever you have something new uh, job balloon it is I'm instantly on it, like I have my notification set, like you posted and you're uploaded, man, because it's just so hilarious and I love how you catch people off guard.
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Thank you, bro.
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What an intro.
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I'm flattered, I'm honored.
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This is awesome.
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Uh, yeah, you're killing it, dude.
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I'm excited to be here you know, I I caught up with you when you're on your live and I just threw it out there like yeah, like I just said, hey man, like I love your content, would you come interview?
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And I was absolutely shocked when you were like yeah, I'd love to.
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I I've been wanting to do a podcast, no one's asked me, I'm small time bro.
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I'm just getting going, so going.
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So I'm at 20K and not that it's all about the numbers.
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But yeah, I started this page only like maybe like a year and a half ago, so it was just over a year ago that like one little video went viral, not to jump right in, but and that kind of took off from there.
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So, yeah, I'm still at the beginning stage.
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So, doing a podcast, I feel like a fucking celeb.
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Can I use the F-bomb?
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Yeah, man.
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Okay, no man.
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I guess we all kind of are humble and we all feel small time, but I would imagine you are getting like thousands and thousands of eyes like on your stuff.
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Man, um, what would you say was probably your most viral piece of content that you've had so far?
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oh man.
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So basically, god I could, I could make this show so much longer than we anticipate, so much to get into.
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But uh, I basically got into streaming through a weird roundabout way.
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Man, I'm turning this into a long answer, but I briefly worked with Shaggy Too Dope from Insane Clown Posse, oh yeah, and because we were both in Michigan, I was pursuing music and I'm like, okay, I was a fan of them as a kid and I'm like I'll reach out to them and they had a podcast going and I'm like, you know, maybe musically something can happen from networking with them, worked with them for a little while and, you know, never really went anywhere.
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They didn't really have the budget to be paying anybody.
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So eventually I was able to hop on one of their streams, though like their live stream on Twitch, and I was like dude.
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One of their streams, though, like their live stream on Twitch, and I was like dude, this is such a fun outlet, like I just I don't know, it was just like letting out my crazy side, just getting to be totally out there, you know, cause people are eating it up and I'm like this is said, there's like no way, I'm not gonna not pursue this.
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Um, started streaming, had like I don't know six regular people watching, like nobody you know, for maybe a half a year.
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And I'm like, oh, I'll start a little instagram just to promote the stream and I'll do little promo videos.
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Just doing promo videos, I'm like why don't I just make some original content?
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And I'm like, what, what do you know?
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Just to entertain the few people that were watching.
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And then it just kind of evolved, developed, like I'm like, what can I do?
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And eventually I'm like screw it, I'm just going out with a cam and just going to talk to people.
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So on the drive over, one little insight I got was like shut off the music, like let's just have a blank slate, you know, leave some space for ideas to come up.
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And I was like let's uh, I know this isn't what you asked, but uh, so I'll get to it.
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Um, I was like what if I was gonna call Jabaloon Show already, because that was my nickname, that's what I was using for the name of my music, and it was just an idea that had been kicking around forever to do something, do like comedy sketches called Jabaloon Show, probably in my back pocket for like 10 years anyway.
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So I went out there and I'm like what if I just ask people like to pretend to be fans of the show, like that's where it started from?
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I'm like what if I just go, I ask people to say you know, to uh pretend like they know the show and just see if they'd go along with it, you know, and just make it kind of awkward and put them on the spot, obviously letting the audience know that they don't really know, you know, and um, and then I'm like, oh yeah, and then then what if I say reveal that the show's something like really off-putting that they wouldn't want to be associated with.
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So immediately it was like I'll go up to presumably straight dudes and say it's about hot, naked dudes, you know like, and see the reaction.
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So it came from there.
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Also, I was like white supremacist.
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I could say it's a white supremacist show.
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I could say it's satanic show.
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So I, you've seen all the stuff.
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So I, you know, I've done all those things and always trying to think up of new offensive, off-putting things and um, so the first one go ahead, something, something completely off the wall, yeah yeah, yeah, something that would just throw them off
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a little elicited reaction.
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Yep and um man, I went out to the third ward in Milwaukee, this little walking area which somehow always has foot traffic, no matter how blistering cold it is.
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It was like I don't know, it was probably like 15 degrees or something.
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It was really cold and I'm just like, let me give it a try, let me just go to people.
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I was so nervous.
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I'm like I can't believe I'm just going to approach people.
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This sucks, you know, which is still basically how I, how I feel when I go out.
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But, um, yeah.
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So I saw this dude walking by and, uh, I'm like, okay, ask him, ask him.
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And I, I backed out, um, I chickened out.
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And then, um, you know, asked a couple other people.
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They mostly just laughed, they got it was a prank and it was like, okay, maybe I can use that.
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And uh, then I saw that same guy again.
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I don't know why I was singling him, maybe I just had a vibe or something, I don't know.
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He was just like 30 something year old black dude, tall guy, was like I don't know, um, so I saw him walk by again.
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I'm like, go for it, you never know what, if this could be the one that uh takes off and you miss it.
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You know.
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I'm like what?
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What if this is?
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You know, I don't know.
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I just had that thought that maybe you know like I could be passing up a huge opportunity if I don't just like nut up and do it.
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So anyway, I asked him like I still refer to him as the hell, no guy, you know, and it was the first time like some of these lines just came out spontaneously.
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So I think they came out so genuine because they were just off the cuff and uh just ran through the basic format.
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If people haven't seen it.
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I was like hey, bro, would you mind saying you're watching the job balloon show?
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He he's like what's that?
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I'm like it's my show.
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He's like you're watching the job balloon show.
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I'm like oh, do you like the joboon show?
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He's like I've never seen it.
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I'm like well, just if you can just kind of pretend.
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And he's like uh, yeah, yeah, I'm like you love the jabaloon show.
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I remember it all by heart.
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He's like yeah, I love the jabaloon show.
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I'm like all right, and I'm stumbling on my words.
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I'm like for some reason I'm throwing an amen.
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I'm like instead of hell.
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Yeah, like I say, now I'm like, instead of hell, yeah, like I say now I'm like amen.
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So I don't even know where it came from.
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I do have some religious background as a youth, but you know, I'm like super nervous, which apparently you said doesn't come across, which is good.
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But he says, anyway, I'm like we'll be right back with plenty more hot guys right after our messages.
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And he's like, oh, hell, no, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh yeah, that that's the show.
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He's like naked guys.
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And I was like, um god, I'm doing, I'm doing black accent, I'm gonna get canceled.
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But, um, he's like naked guys.
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I was like, yeah, that's the show it's.
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I was like it's not porn.
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He goes it's not porn, I'm like no.
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And then I don't know where it came from.
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Just, I was like it's just solo guys, like I don't know.
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Because I thought it would be funny to say, you know, because it's almost like, if you have to tell someone it's not porn, that's a sign that it probably is something like porn.
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You know what I mean?
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like if you're saying it's just solo guys, like I'm trying to make it more mild, but it's almost sounding worse, you know.
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So I'm like, uh, yeah, it's just solo guys on webcam.
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And he's like, oh hell, nah.
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And then I just that's how I cut the clip, just for it to end right on there.
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Bad audio, bad production.
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I'm just using a selfie stick.
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I didn't have an external mic and for whatever reason, threw it up there for my little group of like maybe a dozen people, where I think I had like 100 followers, but they weren't like watching it and somehow I don't remember how quick it happened, but it just started blowing up Like people just love that clip, and it just started just Like people just love that clip.
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And it just started just.
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So I think within like a week I hit like 6,000 followers, which was huge for me because I'd been pursuing music, and so you can tell I've never been on a podcast because I'm like got to tell my whole story, but I'd been pursuing my music and my art for years, couldn't get any traction.
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And then I'm like this dumb little, you know dude joke, it's like what blows up.
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So it hit like 3.6 million views andi got the 6 000 followers, and so that's kind of the original quintessential video and that was the first one I threw up, but that whole prank, um, you know yeah, that's.
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That's amazing how you just kind of tripped and fell and then you fell on some success.
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Man, yeah, for folks out there that haven't gone viral before, though, I mean, everyone has like this, this idea that you go viral.
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Now you're making all this money Like, do the platforms really pay that much for going viral and like having followers?
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I mean, have you seen a lot of growth from, like, other other companies coming in and wanting to work with you?
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What would you say about that?
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I, I'm absolutely deeply in to the hole with this stuff.
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Like no, zero money, um, every everything I've done.
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I'm like just funneling money into it and just hoping it'll pay off one day.
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But, um, up until recently I think.
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I mean I've had shirts since I was doing music, probably six years ago I sold maybe two and then just the other day I sold two more because I finally started advertising it on my new stuff and um, and so it's all just been like I have merch, but it's just giveaway.
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I've mailed out like hundreds of stickers for free and giveaway.
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I have, like I had all this merch before I even had any success for some reason.
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So I coasters and, uh, my cd buttons, all that.
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Um, no, instagram alerts me every time you can't monetize this video.
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They don't let me monetize any of my videos.
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Tiktok constantly shadow bans them and turns the sound off, even for words like genitalia.
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I gotta censor out genitalia.
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Today it was sound was off.
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I had to censor out the word penis.
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I'm like these are medical terms, right, and so they don't let me monetize on Instagram.
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You know, like how in the world do these guys that do these?
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Because the thing I love about what you do is that you at least, at the end of your prank, tell them it's a prank, that you at least, at the end of your prank, tell them it's a prank.
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I mean, I've seen other videos where folks are doing pranks and they're very questionable pranks that can be possibly dangerous or violent, yeah, and then at the end of it all, they're not telling anyone that oh, by the way, this is just a prank, right, like, how are those guys making it?
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I, I don't know, dude.
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I I see some people's stuff and I'm like not to sound cocky, but I'm like man, the production level is pretty low, like not that one's great, but I'm like they're not getting much of a reaction and somehow maybe they just put in more time, you know, but um I mean, some of it I just don't think is creative, like going to to lowe's or home depot and picking a fight with an old guy, right, like that's not a, that's not a creative thing to do, like what you're doing.
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In my opinion, is is unique and it's funny because, like people all the time are mindlessly doing things, right, you know, putting in a sponsor for someone and they don't even know what they're doing, and then and then you come in and introduce at the end what it is and they're like whoa, that just look on their face.
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To me that's, that's comedy art.
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And so these other guys are just doing stupid shit, like grabbing people's carts and slinging it across the island right right, dude, that's that's gonna lead to like assault, like you know.
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I mean so, I mean so I don't.
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I don't know how these guys are making it, man like I.
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That's why I love your.
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You're like what you're doing, because it's it's all a little bit more innovatively creative.
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So I I just had to ask about that part with it, with the viral and content content creation stuff, and would you say that, uh, would you say that your, your, your future plan is to stick with content creation, or are you going to kind of do music and that both?
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I'm trying to like poach some of the job alone, show followers to be interested in the music, like I've done a couple of collab posts with my music page.
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I think I wanted to be a musician my whole life.
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It was my dream and you know, I spent like three.
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I spent a long time trying to do it, but three designated years where I wasn't working another job I was like spending all my savings.
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I was paying my buddy like 10 bucks an hour to help me Huge shout out to my boy, justin, and couldn't have done it without him.
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But yeah, we'd spend, you know, three hours making a beat, you know, making a song, spend another couple hours making a cool psychedelic visual to go with it, post it on Instagram, get like six likes.
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I mean just couldn't make any traction.
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Put together this crazy live show with visual effects and lights and strobe and smoke and a confetti cannon, couldn't just I don't know.
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Music business is hard to break into and finally, within like the past two years, I'm like I don't know if I want to do that.
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Like I always want to play music and I do it on my stream a lot and I love it.
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But you know, I don't know doing the comedy stuff.
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But you know I don't know doing the comedy stuff.
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It's been fun.
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And to what you said before, I know some of these pranksters are so mean and it's such a like a militia.
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It's like punch you in the face, just kidding you know like yeah, I've seen these guys.
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I've seen these guys like square up on people before and I'm like, wow, when it gets to that point, like that's no longer to me.
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That's not funny.
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Like that's, that could be my dad, that could be my grandpa, exactly, that's not cool.
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Like so I don't, I don't get it, I don't know if those guys are.
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That's why I asked about the, about the money part, because, right to me, it's got to be worth it to do something that vile to another person.
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Man, yeah.
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Side note, I would love a sponsor, though it would be awesome.
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I don't know how to go about doing it.
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I'm just learning as I go.
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Lots of trial and error, but the mean stuff.
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To be honest, in the beginning I wasn't telling people it was a prank, you know, and I was letting them leave Like the Hell Nah guy.
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To be honest, in the beginning I wasn't telling people it was a prank, you know, and I was letting them leave.
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Think, like the hell no guy.
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He left saying if you post this, I'm going to sue you, I don't want to be on any gay website whatever.
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And I never told him because I just thought there was more like integrity.
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I don't know what I was thinking.
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And then at some point I'm like this feels mean and I realize like people also really like to see them the reveal and see people laugh, laugh it off.
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I'd say one in 30 people get real upset, which I do feel bad about.
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But I kind of go to like you want to make an omelet, got to crack some eggs, like I know it's going to piss off the occasional person, but for the laughter and I feel like the community of the job alone show like is so positive, like it's a positive vibe All the.
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It seems to attract a lot of positive people.
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So, yeah, I'm happy to keep it more positive.
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Yeah, man and uh, and you kind of brushed over it earlier, but you talked about working with Insane Clown Posse.
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There's huge up where you're at in the Detroit area, right, right, how did you meet them?
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Yeah, well, I God.
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Another little bit of background.
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My parents have a pie business.
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They started when I was eight, so they've been in the pie business like three plus decades Out of Metro Detroit.
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I try not to connect it too much to my stuff so I won't go into too many details, but just since you know, don't necessarily want that association for their sake, but they I sent them a pie.
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I was like, I reached out to them and I go hey, do you guys want a?
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Um, can I send you some pie?
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Just like.
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I don't know.
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It's been a good foot in the door.
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Like you know, my parents gave away a ton of free pie getting their foot in the door and even though it's not related to food, like you know, I'm like um.
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So we did some pies.
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We decorated them up with like their face, you know, with ICP clown makeup and with chocolate and made little you know, shaped it all out.
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They looked pretty cool and their producer was like hey, actually do you think we could film something at the pie shop?
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You know, just kind of do like a pie baking tutorial.
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So they came on to do it.
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Shaggy Toot Open his partner at the time it wasn't the other guy from ICP, but it was his like comedy partner that they were doing a podcast and vlogs.
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And I was like, man, this is our chance.
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So me and my boy, justin, were like let's just go all out, like we had again funneling money into it, hoping it'll pay off, like you know, know Baker's style old fashioned hat that said Shaggy, and the other one with the other guy's name and, uh, made this like by hand, concocted this pie slingshot Cause they're just into like wacky stuff.
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I'm like they can shoot each other with pies, just like made a real elaborate day.
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And they, they were like, um, real impressed by it.
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And they're like, wow, you also edit video.
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Do you want to come work for us for free?
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And so I was like, yeah, like I'll eventually need to get paid, but for now I'm like man, shaggy Chewbacca was like childhood hero, you know.
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So I'm like who knows where it will go?
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And indirectly it led to all this other stuff.
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If I hadn't done that, it wouldn't have got to the uh job balloon show, you know what I?
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I remember when I was in high school in ohio there was a lot of guys that loved icp.
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Yeah, I mean, they were they.
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That was back when we had the big one speaker shoved into our trunks, yeah, you know, and a lot, all that bass and everything.
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So that's fascinating, man, because I know that they're.
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They're huge celebrities, um, in in the midwest specifically, I mean all over, but right, mainly in the midwest, for sure, definitely michigan ohio so, aside from music, do you do any other type of art um, or what I would call art like creative processing, or not not really music, comedy stuff.
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I'm thinking about dipping my toe into standup.
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I'm 40.
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I know I'm too old to really get anywhere with it, but I'm like I kind of just want the challenge and I think it would be fun and I'd like to develop the skillset, like what if we can throw a job of Palooza one day?
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I was honestly thinking that too.
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Man, I think you have a knack for comedy.
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Oh, thanks, thank you.
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I really do, and you mentioned earlier about the anxiety.
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I mean, I'm shocked to hear that you have anxiety when you're walking up to strangers on the street.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Man.
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Even, like yesterday or two days ago, I went out still after doing it so much.
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I'm like in my car I'm like, oh fuck, this sucks, like it's the one part.
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I'll be honest, I don't really really like doing that part, but the payoff is so big so I just forced myself into it.
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Now I've been live streaming it and that does help because it encourages, like encourages me to like push it further because there's people watching and it takes the anxiety off, because normally it's like I'm going up to someone I'm like, okay, okay, just say it, just say it.
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And then I say it, do the thing.
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Usually while I'm in it I'm not too nervous.
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You know, once I'm immersed in the interaction but then afterward, even if it goes good, I'm walking away like what did I just do?
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But if I know I got footage, it's like a total rush and a high, and then I'm editing it.
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I'm so excited for everybody to see it.
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So it pays off.
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But yeah, going out there, I'm like I'm walking away from each interaction, especially the ones where they get upset.
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You know, I'm just walking away, just, you know, festering with anxiety.
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Yeah, I'm during this podcast because I recorded this on video too, I'm gonna throw up.
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I I downloaded one of your most recent uh content, uh, that where you're on the street and you're talking to a guy and he, he says, yeah, watch the jabaloon show.
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And then you mentioned, uh, the number one show for stds in milwaukee.