Mark Hasara wasn't going to let a bad day, a counselor, or someone else telling him to quit decide whether he'd reach his goal.

I love that kind of determination.

This clip comes from a conversation I had with Mark Hasara on 𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙈𝙤𝙧𝙣𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙁𝙤𝙧𝙢𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣 𝙋𝙤𝙙𝙘𝙖𝙨𝙩, in August 2025. 🎧 Listen wherever you get your podcasts.